Lanier, others urge civilians to sometimes confront active shooters

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D.C. Police Chief Has ‘Counterintuitive’ Advice for Those Confronted With Active Shooter: ‘It’s the Best Option for Saving Lives’.

D.C. Despite her call on Sunday night for civilians to “take the gunman down” in a mass shooting scenario, Washington DC’s chief of police has approved just 48 concealed carry licenses in the past year and nearly 80 percent of all applicants have been rejected.

The chief of the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia (MPD), Cathy Lanier, has given some interesting advice to citizens recently during an interview with CBS News.In an upcoming segment of CBS’ “60 Minutes,” Lanier said she’s no longer preaching a passive message to people confronted with an active shooter. During that interview, she said, “If you’re in a position to try and take the gunman down, to take the gunman out, it’s the best option for saving lives before police can get there.” “That’s kind of counterintuitive to what cops always tell people, right?

In the wake of the Paris terrorist attacks and threats from the Islamic State, Lanier said calling 911 for law enforcement’s help might not be enough because of response times. “Your options are run, hide or fight,” Lanier told Anderson Cooper. “The facts of the matter is that most active shooters kill most of the victims in 10 minutes or less. The chief, appearing on the Sunday “60 Minutes” CBS news show, noted that in many multiple shootings, most victims are killed within the first 10 minutes — at the Navy Yard shootings in 2013, 10 of the 12 victims were dead in fewer than six minutes. Don’t intervene in the robbery.’ We’ve never told people, ‘Take action.’ It’s a different – this is a different scenario.” Lanier did not respond to requests for comment, but a department spokesperson told FoxNews.com she has the final approval on all applications received. A federal appeals court is currently in the early stages of deciding one case on whether a visiting judge from upstate New York had the authority to suspend a provision of the District’s laws requiring people to state a “good reason” to carry a firearm.

A November poll conducted by The Washington Post found 51 percent of D.C. residents favored reinstating a ban on gun ownership that the Supreme Court declared unconstitutional in 2008. District officials and federal lawyers are engaged in an ongoing court battle over D.C.’s gun ban after a federal judge ruled the law unconstitutional last year. Local authorities last had to deal with a major active gunman situation in September 2013, when a defense contractor gunned down 12 coworkers in an hour-long shooting at the Washington Navy Yard in Southeast. That remains true in most crimes, he said. “But if you’re dealing with suicide bombers or terrorists, it’s a completely different dynamic,” Wexler said. “I think that because so much can happen in so few seconds, intervention by citizens can make a big difference.” The “60 Minutes” show focused mostly on how law enforcement in the United States has changed strategies since the massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado in 1999, when police waited for tactical squads to form before storming the building.

Cary permits are available theoretically, but according to a NRA-ILA summary are only granted on “a very restricted basis.” Rushing at an attacker is an iffy proposition. After-action reports issued last year on law enforcement’s response to incident noted that police radio channels were overloaded, officers were not familiar with military complex and emergency calls reporting the active gunman were routed to two different 911 call centers. Gottlieb, founder of the Bellevue, Washington-based Second Amendment Foundation that has backed lawsuits challenging the District’s gun laws, said that if the police chief is advocating for citizens to fight back against active shooters, he would hope that she would try to make it easier for residents to arm themselves in order to do so. “We’re glad Chief Lanier departed from the usual narrative and encouraged people to fight back,” Mr.

Spencer Stone, Alek Skarlatos, and the others who rushed the gunman on the Thalys train this past August got very lucky: The would-be killer’s Kalashnikov assault rifle jammed. In addition, at least 117 officers from eight different law enforcement agencies had entered Building 197, where contractor Aaron Alexis skulked through the hallways and randomly shot people he encountered.

That’s pretty hard if you don’t have a gun.” The National Rifle Association, likewise, was supportive of the chief’s comments, but called it “ironic” that the same chief who oversaw the drafting of strict concealed-carry regulations is calling for people to exercise their constitutional right to self-protection. “We only hope that this means she will begin to issue concealed-carry permits to law-abiding citizens so they won’t have to ‘take out’ armed terrorists with their bare hands,” said NRA spokeswoman Jennifer Baker. They say the law sometimes takes months to complete. “For all intents and purposes, this requirement makes it impossible for the overwhelming majority of law-abiding citizens to obtain licenses to carry handguns in public for self-defense, thereby depriving them of their Second Amendment right to bear arms,” Judge Scullin wrote in his 23-page opinion. In August, three U.S. friends tackled and disarmed a suspected Islamist militant with two guns, a knife and nine ammunition clips aboard a train headed to Paris. When an attacker has minutes, as has been the case in shootings like Virginia Tech, Newtown, Aurora, or Umpqua Community College, the casualty count will climb.

In October, a former Army infantryman was shot three times trying to block a classroom door at a community college in Oregon to prevent a gunman from entering. Now, I’m sure that we’ve already heard some gun-grabbers, like California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom, claim that armed citizens will only make matters worse. In New York, authorities are training 35,000 officers to confront active shooters and suicide bombers, and last week, the department deployed roving groups of tactical officers in Manhattan so they could quickly respond to any call for help from a terrorist threat.

The “Run, Hide, Fight” video recommends confrontation “as a last resort, if your life is at risk.” But once committed to fight, the video urges people to “act with aggression. He could have also pointed out that France, despite gun laws that are stricter than those in California, has seen at least three attacks this year in which the terrorists used fully-automatic assault rifles and suicide vests despite those tough gun control laws. The real question for Lanier is if she will take the next logical step, having told people to resist those who are carrying out a Paris/Mumbai-style attack: Telling her political masters, the mayor of Washington, D.C., and the D.C. The narrator says: “Commit to taking the shooter down, no matter what.” As the gunman enters, the video shows employees attacking him — two with coffee mugs, others with a chair and a fire extinguisher. It would be a very gutsy call, and could end a 25-year career with the MPD, but if she’s serious about having D.C.’s citizens resist a Paris or Mumbai-style attack, telling the city’s politicians the hard truth would be a good first step.

He said the advice for both similar ideas was adopted by federal law enforcement after the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., in 2012. “If you are in close proximity to the shooter and the choice is between being shot and fight, you fight,” Blair said.

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